Re: Ataque al HMS Invincible

Argentina to this day claims that she hit (and some say sank) HMS Invincible. On 30th May an attack did indeed take place but the attack focused on the escorts some distance ahead of the fleet. The Exocet missed or may have been shot down by a fluke hit from a 4.5″ shell from HMS Avenger, its debatable (after action combat reports are not exacly known for their accuracy). 2 of the 4 Skyhawks were shot down by Sea Dart from HMS Exeter. The remaining 2 attempted to bomb Avenger but missed. The pilots to this day claim they hit Invincible. Of course anyone with half a brain can tell you that after action combat reports by pilots are about as much use as a chocolate teapot. Honest pilot impressions don’t match the gun camera footage. Which brings me to an interesting point – that the Argentines apparently don’t have any gun camera film of this “momentous event” but you can take the pilots word on trust; yeah right. For the Argentines who claim that this lack of proof is because the A-4C doesn’t have a gun camera. Well all USN aircraft since WWII have had a gun camera as a standard fit. If there isn’t any gun camera film of this event, you can pretty well guarantee that it didn’t happen. Never mind that for the conspiracy to be possible requires the suspension of disbelief to the point of insanity, you will never succeed in convincing the Argentines that Invincible never received so much as a scratch. Interestingly, the Argentine propaganda machine claimed to have sank HMS

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25 Responses to Re: Ataque al HMS Invincible

  1. absolutod2 says:

    ki tosco

  2. silverblueeye says:

    Oh and i also saw the SHAR’s, their extra dark sea grey dulled and peeling and they had a metallic kerosene smell……that smelt like…. victory

  3. silverblueeye says:

    As a side point the memory i have the most is all the hundreds of junk being unloaded from the surrender of Argentine conscripts and the stink of sea water and defeat

  4. silverblueeye says:

    I was in the Royal Navy.
    I saw Invincible return.
    If you damaged her then whoever repaired between Falkands and home did a very good job because i saw no trace other than weather wear and tear.

  5. tootiredtobeoriginal says:

    @sethloner

    All A4 are fitted with a gun camera as standard, if you had none, how come gun camera film of the attack on Coventry was published.

  6. sethloner says:

    Nuestro A4C/B/Q no tenian camaras, los unicos creo que era los Dagger, tampoco tenian contra medidas chaff, flares, no tenian radio altimetro, los cañones de 20mm en su gran mayoria se atascaban, tampoco tenian warning lock ni misiles de defensa como sidewinder ni shafir que si tenian los dagger, muy pocos tenian sistema de navegacion. y los mas importante murieron 2 hereos en ese ataque lo hiciero 2 super etendart de la armada y 4 A4 C de los cuales 2 volvieron
    Un saludo.

  7. paratrooper629 says:

    hey- any chnce the UK would sell Vinnie w/ some SHARS to Chile????

  8. tootiredtobeoriginal says:

    Yeah right, they parked the Invincible in the full view of the Spanish press and not one of them took a picture.

    Its amazing the crap people will believe.

  9. KiniArgentina says:

    Un amigo español contó a los medios argentinos que vió en Gibraltar al HMS Invencible y no podía moverse por sus propios medios de lo hecho pelota que estaba, asique…

  10. bannon1000 says:

    The FACT is that British fire power won.Today we have our latest Typhoon fighters based on the falklands,at least 2 warships on patrol there and a submarine on patrol at the falkland islands.If the Argies come again we’ll wip their arses again.We are GREAT BRITAIN and we dont mess!!!!

  11. tootiredtobeoriginal says:

    Nope, Invincible changed a gear box whilst underway, she blew a gearbox leaving Portsmouth.

  12. sonelihcsotup says:

    YO solo dije lo que he leído y lo que un inglés me dijo aqui mismo en youtube
    lo de la escala del hms invincible en ascension… para reparacion de propulsores… no lo he inventado yo

  13. tootiredtobeoriginal says:

    Sorry but thats BS

  14. sonelihcsotup says:

    @tootiredtobeoriginal Pero eso no lo digo yo, sino muchos británicos incluso se puede leer en muchos sitios web.

  15. tootiredtobeoriginal says:

    @sonelihcsotup Ascension island has no port facility or repair facility, there are plenty of photos showing Vini in the Falklands including her anchored in Port William.

  16. sonelihcsotup says:

    Hms Invincible no se quedó en las islas, estuvo en Isla Ascensión supuestamente para reparar propulsores, volviendo en setiembre del 82 a uk…

  17. tootiredtobeoriginal says:

    Like so many things about the Argentine “version” this is simply a lie. The Invincible Harriers remained active, Cmdr Sharky Ward shot down a Hercules the next day. Invincinle was nowhere near. Sad indeed that wartime propaganda has such a hold over the Argentine psyche that they feel the need to invent imaginary victories rather than defeat with honour.

  18. vekhio says:

    cOMO SE EXPLICAN QUE DESPUES DEL ATAQUE AL INVENCIBLE SE SUSPENDIIERON LOS VUELOS DE LOS HARRIER . ADEMAS DE QUE LOS RADRES Y LOS OJOS DE LOS PILOTOS NO MIENTEN, FUE ALCANZADO, SIN DUDA CASO CONTRARIO QUE EL GOBIERNO BRITANICO, SAQUE A LA LUZ LA VERDAD DEL CONFLICTO

  19. tootiredtobeoriginal says:

    No we don’t, not since the Freedom of Information Act in 2000. Damaged ships go to port to be fixed, they don’t hang around iin the South Atlantic and the reason she stayed is very credible; she was there to defend against further Argentine attacks. The other carrier Hermes was overdue an overhaul.

  20. llorieb says:

    It’s not correct. Argentine Air Force said Invincible was not sank, but damaged.

    Why it took so long to get back to England? Explanations here aren’t very solid.

    You have 99 years of secret for Malvinas War. Why?

  21. nebazo says:

    I love my country and i have a lot of friends in England,

    Armies and politician, SUCKS.

    English and Argentinian.

    PLUR.

  22. tootiredtobeoriginal says:

    Clearly no, you don’t think.

  23. hoplite1766 says:

    Argentine propaganda, no creo

  24. tootiredtobeoriginal says:

    Invincible blew a gear box and it was repaired on board. Invincible did not put into Gibraltar and it is utterly ludicrous to claim that she would have put into Gib under the noses of the Spanish and not one photo was taken.

    Invincible stayed in the Falklands to provide air cover, well known, well documented, there are hundreds of photos. Grow up.

  25. Tribucab says:

    el invencible fue remolcado en la base britanica de gibraltar en 1982, ya que no se podia movilizar por sus propios medios. Esto lo afirman testigos españoles que vieron al portaaviones en el puerto. Le reparon dos tubinas entre otras cosas, que prueban que el portaaviones efectivamente fue tocado. Sino de que otra forma explican porque demoro tanto en volver a gran bretaña?

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